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From Where Did Muhammad/Allah “Borrow” The Stories in the Quran?

June 22, 2009

There is very little in the Quran that is original thinking. Practically all of it is “borrowed” from older times, or from sourrounding cultures. The laws mainly are from old Arab traditions, added by some ideas from mainly the Jews, the Christians and Persia. Also ethical and moral ideas came from the same sources – partly originally from Hellas. (But then Islam never really had a philosophy of moral or ethics – they never was interested in knowledge for the sake of knowledge and actively fought against things like philosophy – a war Islam won in 1095 with a book attacking just philosophy and written by “the second greatest Muslim ever” al-Ghazali. They instead followed the few and sometimes inhuman orders in the Quran). And the same goes for knowledge and sciense – mainly from Hellas and Persia and some from India. But actually knowledge and science was in short supply at the times of Muhammad – translation of the old books to Arab came much later.

At the times of Muhammad Arabia simply was in a permanent barbaric state with little education except the basic learning – and that only for a selected few – and with the tribes constantly fighting each other in a real anarci. The only form of art that existed was storytelling and poetry. The country was even more barbaric than the worst places in north Pakistan and Afghanistan and Africa today. (This may be a reason why Islam had success in Arabia after it was changed to a war religion – the Arabs were by culture – or rather by anarchism – warriors by heart because that was they had been brought up to become, and a war religion fitted their not-culture. Barbarism is not a culture, no matter what semi-intellectuals say).

In such situations Muhammad was not to blame for stealing good ideas from the surroundings – actually not to do so would just be stubborn stupidity – like what you see some places even today: Everything from the outside, and especially from the west, is bad, instead of picking the good ideas and leaving the bad ones. Muhammad – or Allah – was wise enough to try to pick the good ideas from where he found them.

But Muhammad was no thinker himself (sorry, but hardly any real scientist today believe the Quran was made by a god – nothing points towards a god, everything towards Muhammad and/or human helpers). And also in the Quran there is little or nothing of original stuff. The stories are all taken from other sources known in Arabia at that time (why should a god do so?)

Much is taken from the Bible, but “adjusted” to fit Muhammad’s teaching. But much of this really is not from the Bible, but from religious fairy tales and folk tales or from texts made up by different fringe sects – gnostics f. ex. made up quite a number of  “gospels” and other “holy” stories. If we say that Muhammad made up the Quran himself, it is easy to see why he frequently missed here:

I.              He did not know much about Jewish religion, until after he came to Medina, and then it was too late.

II.            He never knew much about the Christian religion.

III.          Perhaps he did not know how to read, and for sure he never had a Bible.

IV.         There was a myriade of stories and poems also about religious subjects in Arabia – as I said storytelling (and story making) and poetry were the only arts in Arabia, and also one of the few pastimes in such cultures during long evenings.

It often was impossible for him to know what really was a true story and what not.

Besides he had to mix divinity into the stories, if it was not there before – it may as well be there from before, because then an intelligent but rather short of fantasy brain like Muhammad’s only had to name the god behind the stories “Allah“. Actually he used both religious and non-religious stories and changed them enough to fit his teaching.

But as for stories presumably from the Jewish and even more so from the Christian religion some of them were just twisted a little or a lot, whereas others were plainly from made up folk and fairy tales, legends and myths known in Arabia at that time.

I do not comment the places the Quran twists the Bible – most of my readers will recognize them. I only ad that in Syria and Arabia there were many from the partly Christian Gnostic sects living, and actually many of the stories pretending to be from the Bible in the Quran, are from made up Gnostic tales.  But I will take some of the others – and a couple of Gnostic ones (sources: Among others Slot-Henriksen: Comments on the Quran):

001     Moses and the fish – from Arabic folk tales about search for eternal life. May be originally from Babylon – the Babylonian Ugarit texts has a very similar story about the god El (not unknown in and around Arabia).

002     Solomon listening to the ants – fairty tale perhaps inspired by the Bible, Sol. 6/6.

003     Jinns working for Solomon – from local fairy tales, folk tales and myths (jinns were beings in Arab folklore that are incorporated in Islam). Anyone who has read f. ex. 1001 Nights knows that supernatural beings sometimes worked for humans.

004     Mary working in the temple (in Jerusalem) as child/youth – from “The Proto Gospel after Jacob”, part 8,1 and 8,1b.

005     Jesus talking in the crib – from the religious legend “The Egyptian Child Gospel” perhaps via the as made up “The Arab Child Gospel” (originally from Syria) – both fairy tales about fantastic things concerning the child Jesus. “The Arab Child Gospel” also got stories from “The Proto Gospel after Jacob” and “The Thomas’ Child Gospel” – both made up religious legends or myths.

006     Jesus making birds from clay – read the heretical Gnostic “Child Gospel after Thomas” verse 1 – 4, a very made up child gospel. (Actually none of the storeys about Jesus in the Quran is reckoned by scientists to be true. Actually most of what is said in the Quran about Christian religion, is from apocryphal – made up – sources. Not unnatural as there f. ex. were many Gnostics and other semi-Christian and semi-Jewish sects in the fringes of Christianity. sects. Syria and Arabia definitely were in – and outside – those fringes).

007     Mary and the palm – from the made up religious fable “The Proto Gospel after Mathew”, chapter 20.

008     Muhammad’s Night Journey to Heaven – read about different such travels in Jewish Merabah mysticism or even more the gnostig “Enoc’s Journy to Heaven” (nearly identical to Ibn Ishaq’s by Islam accepted story after Abu Said al-Chudri)

009     The sleepers in the cave – the even today well known religious fable from Efesus, about the 7 youths that fled from emperor Decius (a real emperor reigning only 2 years around 250 AD) and went to sleep in a cave, and then woke up maximum 196 years later (the Quran says 300 or 309 years) under the more well known emperor Theodocius). Just read it – it normally even is better told than in the Quran.

010     Alexander the Great/Duh’l Quarnayn – anyone knowing the story of Alaxander; read this part oft Surah 18 and weep – or laugh. Copycatting at its most naïve. (He f. ex. was no Muslim, he never went west – this we know from history, there no place in the world was enough iron blocks to close off a whole valley around 330 BC, etc.).

012     The story about Ad (many times repeated) – copied from Arab folk tales, presumeably a story from more than 2000 years before Muhammad (before Moses (around 1230 BC) according to the Quran), and Muhammad had no written sources. Besides all the other: How big is the chance that a folk tale is true and identical with the reality after 2ooo years?

013     The stories about Thamud – copied from Arab presumably 2ooo years old folk tales. See the tales about Ad just above.

014     The stories about Median – copied from Arab folk tales.

If you look, may be you will find more copycatting.

Hadith (also known as Sunnah/Sunnat)

January 16, 2008

As in almost all religions, Mohammed was greatly revered by his followers. They wanted to live their life like he did. So when Mohammed was living, people noted and remembered what he did, and said. These stories and reports are called the Hadith (pronounced ‘Hadees’). In most cases, the stories were true. There are reports of some hadith being fabricated (sites: *1, *2, *3) for political gain, but most hadith are true and beleived by most Muslims. Some of them have been incorporated into Islamic laws (Shariah), such as cutting of hands, stoning to death, half inferitance and testimonial rights of women, violation of women’s rights such as compulsory veiliing, ban on driving, requirement of 4 witnesses in event of a woman being raped, etc. Once I was in a mosque, when I was a muslim, and they told me, that the ‘sunnat’ way of sleeping was on your right side. Similarly, other hadith tell us about ways to do other things in life. Most of them dont make sense and often preach wrong moral ideas. Some do, but again, the clever Mohammed included good things in Islam to catch people’s attention. If Islam was 100% evil, it would not have so many followers as it does today. An example of hadith not making sense is rubbing ourselves with an odd number of stones after we’ve attended a nature call. Hadith that make sense talk about being good to your neighbour (Do we need a prophet to tell us this?). Other sensible stuff in Hadith is derived from common sense and other religions.

Many hadith teach wrong moral ideas, An example of one of the most violent ones is to order to kill anyone who has left Islam. Numerous hadith encourage hatred and violence against non-Muslims.

So this is hadith in a nutshell and we hope we have clarified enough in as short concise manner as possible. If you need more clarification, please dont hesitate to contact us. We’ll answer your questions and include them in the FAQ section.

There is a growing number of Muslims who dont beleive in Hadith. Eventually, Muslims will let go of Quran as well and become apostates just like us.

There are some hadith which call for our killing, and this is what concerns apostates most. Mohammed knew apostates of Islam could easily shake up people’s beleifs. For this reason, he ordered to kill us, as demonstrated in the following hadith:

“Whoever changes his religion, kill him.”
[Bukhari, Hakim, Ibn Abi Shaybah, Tabarani]

Muhammed

January 16, 2008

Muhammed was an Arab man, who lived 1400 years ago.

To realize his desire to rule over people, and satisfy his above-average sexual desires, he lied to everyone that he was receiving revelations from God.

Comparing to his surrounding people who were immoral enough to bury their infant daughers, he was a relatively clever guy, intelligent, but evil to the core. Studying Islam almost makes one think Mohammed was the devil himself which he kept talking of.

From a muslim perspective, Mohammed was a kind truthful man, and the true last prophet of God.
Read the Quran and Hadith and decide for yourself.

This is all there is to him. He was an evil liar and a violent man with a larger than usual sexual appetite. He was a pedophile, because when he was 54 years old, he married a 9 year old little girl. He was old enough to be her grandfather.

If Mohammed was truelly a prophet, he would have set better examples.
If Allah was a true god, he would know that Mohammed would be called a pedophile in the future. How could Allah allow his last messenger to be called a pedophile in the future? Was it necessary for Mohammed to have married a 9 year old little girl and result in being called a pedophile later on?

Character defects like these and many other factors, such as the absence of miracles in Quran disqualify Mohammed as being the last messenger of God.

Quran

January 16, 2008

To Muslims, Quran is a holy book, revealed directly to Mohammed through the angel Gibrael. To them, it the absolute truth, the last message to mankind from the Creator of this Universe.

In reality, Quran is a creation of Mohammed’s mind and includes collections of stories, brainwashing techniques, general common sense and morals, and some “scientific” statements.
All these elements were either common sense, were borrowed from other religions and sources, or were invented by Mohammed.
A good study of what Mohammed borrowed from other sources, can be studied at the Answering Islam site.

The reason why Quran is not divine, is that, it contains many defects, contradictions, wrong morals and incorrect science, and on top of it, all this has been copied from other sources.
All of Quran’s scientific miracles have been refuted many times, such as on the Faith Freedom International website.

Had “Allah” been a true God, He would have made the Quran infinitely strong in such a way that any human being, no matter how hard he/she tried, would never be able to point out any defect in it.
Instead, today, Islam is the World’s most hatred and criticised religion, and Quran is being called the “manual of Terrorism”.

So, could Quran truely be the “last” message to mankind by the Creator of this wonderful Universe?
Common sense replies with a firm negative.

As a summary of what the Quran actually is all about:
– In most of the verses, Quran keeps praising Allah the non-existent God. When you read the Quran, almost every now and then you’ll see familiar verses like ‘And Allah is merciful, forgiving’ (SURE he is).

– It gives many threats of Hellfire, as well as gives promises of Heaven- this is to entice the believer into action, using this simple push/pull strategy which is used by other religions as well but not to the extent which is used in Islam.

– Quran contains orders for Muslims, how they should live their lives. Not all aspects of life are covered, an example being masterbation, or using your friends login information to access confidential information on company computers.

– Quran contains events and stories of the past. They were mostly copied from other religions. Check here for detailed information on this.

– Quran contains a sprinking of ‘scientific’ statements, which tried to impress the illiterate reader 1400 years ago. That was the era in which the Sun and the Moon were thought to go around the Earth. Today we know these ‘scientific statements’ to actually contain wrong science, as well as stuff copied from other religions and scientists of those time. An example is the idea of sperm being generated in the Backbone[Quran 86:6]. This idea was proposed by Greek scientists, and copied by Mohammed. If we had copyright laws 1400 years ago, Mohammed would have been jailed for copyright infringement and there would be no Islam today. Sadly, it was the era in which people buried their infant daughters and thus he took advantage of the fact that people around him were inhuman Arabs with *no* moral sense. Thus, Quran has *little* moral sense, when comparing to universal standards.

If the Quran was 100% bad, it would die out quickly. For this reason, Mohammed included some good things in Quran, so good people would support the Quran and keep Islam alive.
At the same, terrorists act out on the bad teachings of Quran, resulting in global terrorism whose painful effects have been and are being experienced by everyone.
It is these bad teachings of Quran that have jeapordized the Global peace process. One of the many excellent articles which illustrates this point while citing evidence from Quran, can be read here on the FFI web site.

Islamic terrorism will continue to injure mankind and create misery on Earth, until Islam ceases to exist.

Islam

January 16, 2008
Mohammad, the founder of Islam saw that like previous ‘prophets’, he too could invent a religion and proclaim his thoughts to be from the ‘Creator’. This would give him power over his relatively illiterate and dumb audience. One of the reason why he created Islam was that he wanted to control people and rule over them.

This is what Islam is in a nutshell – A collection of manipulative lies created by one of the most malicious men to have lived on Earth.

This clever system of lies (or Islam) capitalizes on (makes use of) several things.

1) Islam takes advantage of previous liars who pretended to be prophets of “God”.
Every new ‘liar’ would try to find better ways to deceive the public. One of the earliest liar was the caveman who boasted about being able to talk to the Rain God. If everyone obeyed him, he would make sure Rain would fall on their crops. Mohammed the Liar was an advanced version of this caveman- like Windows XP, as compared to MS DOS.

2) Islam makes use of mankind’s : – age old fear of fire: The (Un)Holy Quran keeps repeating threats of Hellfire to anyone who doesnt obey Allah, the false God.- desire to live an eternal life after they have died (the survival instinct)

– desire to beleive in a God, who will listen to their problems, and provide justice to them if they have been violated in any way. Beleif in a God reassures mankind that there is someone who is powerful, responsible and ‘good’ who will take care of them, now in this life, and then in the ‘afterlife’.

– men’s almost insatiable desire for sex – by promising beleiving men to be rewarded with beautiful women in paradise. (Quran 44:54)

3) Islam makes use of man’s high vulnerability to develop low self-esteem and their tendency to keep it in the system.
The low self-esteem can be created by abuse in younger years, and is almost always passed on to next generations. Islam is a system that further degrades Humans and pushes them down the low self-esteem trap by:
a) telling the beleiver that they have no right to live life their own way, and are only infact, a slave of Allah, who they must obey in order to avoid Hellfire.

b) giving lesser self-esteem to women (advising a man to beat his wife[Quran 4:34], lesser testimonial rights [Quran 4:11], covering up in a veil as if she can only be a sex object [various hadith and quran] etc.). Women with low self-esteem will raise children who have low self-esteem as well. Once low self-esteem enters a family system, its hard to build it up, because nature shows that Destruction is easy, while Contruction is hard and takes more time.
Islam: A plague

Islam is the worst plague to have hit humanity. The Bubonic plague physically killed 25 million people in Europe in the 1300’s. Islam is a more serious illness, which has mentally infected about 1 billion people and continues to effect the rest of the 5 billion population of Earth. The religion is very destructive and dangerous, and threatens peace on Earth.